Friendship is Magic

Prak · Post by **Prak** » Sat Aug 04, 2012 5:16 am

Celestia or Molestia?

Pseudo Stupidity · Post by **Pseudo Stupidity** » Mon Aug 06, 2012 1:23 pm

virgil wrote:I've only been to a regular pony meet; and my friend and I were the only males there (TOZ as a temporary guest star), which means the entire experience is going to be substantially different. For no other reason than because they also care a lot about collecting Gen 1 through 3.5 ponies, and Gen 4 is simply part of the experience; while to my knowledge, bronies care drastically more about Gen 4 than the others.

If I had to hazard a guess, it would be like any anime meetup, only everyone would start off talking about MLP:FiM instead of Naruto.

Bitches love ponies. Gettin' all dem fine fillies in da club cause I'm fly like a Dash mo--

Sorry.

I've never been to an anime meetup either though; I'm generally a game nerd, not a media nerd. I guess my main question is: will there be snacks? That or will the people be awesome?

Stahlseele · Post by **Stahlseele** » Mon Aug 06, 2012 4:27 pm

Bronies tend to be 20% cooler and they can usually prove it in 10 seconds flat.
Snacks . . Well . . Cupcakes could make an appearance if you are truly (un)lucky . .

Ted the Flayer · Post by **Ted the Flayer** » Mon Aug 06, 2012 5:09 pm

I have seen "baked bads" recipes on the internet.

Stahlseele · Post by **Stahlseele** » Mon Aug 06, 2012 5:16 pm

i'm kinda surprised that nobody has been reported as having built a functional party cannon as of yet . .

Ted the Flayer · Post by **Ted the Flayer** » Mon Aug 06, 2012 6:02 pm

Also, anyone else disappointed there are only 13 episodes for season 3?

Voss · Post by **Voss** » Mon Aug 06, 2012 8:57 pm

Potentially, but not necessarily - I think tv execs are finally starting to grasp that sticking to the 26 episode model isn't necessarily good or desirable anymore. As long as they can put out quallity episodes on a decent schedule, how they are structured is rather irrelevant. (By contrast, the massive break it the last season of Dr. Who made me want to find and smack someone at BBC Wales)

What matters more is how long they can hold on to the voice talent, and if they can keep the setting consistent and coherent (it wobbled quite a bit at both ends of Season 2). Cadence alone was a wtf moment, and will apparently matter since she is at least referenced in some of the season 3 promo stuff.

Prak · Post by **Prak** » Mon Aug 06, 2012 9:14 pm

Stahlseele wrote:i'm kinda surprised that nobody has been reported as having built a functional party cannon as of yet . .

Don't know about that, but I suddenly want to build a Pinkie Gun...

Ted the Flayer · Post by **Ted the Flayer** » Tue Aug 07, 2012 3:00 am

Voss wrote:Potentially, but not necessarily - I think tv execs are finally starting to grasp that sticking to the 26 episode model isn't necessarily good or desirable anymore. As long as they can put out quallity episodes on a decent schedule, how they are structured is rather irrelevant. (By contrast, the massive break it the last season of Dr. Who made me want to find and smack someone at BBC Wales)

What matters more is how long they can hold on to the voice talent, and if they can keep the setting consistent and coherent (it wobbled quite a bit at both ends of Season 2). Cadence alone was a wtf moment, and will apparently matter since she is at least referenced in some of the season 3 promo stuff.

I would agree that 13 good episodes would be superior than 26 really crappy ones.

I'm wondering how Cadence was a WTF moment? Was it the fact that she's an alicorn out of nowhere (considering that the "rules" are there's two official alicorns, and one "unofficial" one that Faust uses as her avatar on various boards), or am I missing something?

Prak · Post by **Prak** » Tue Aug 07, 2012 5:06 am

It remains to be seen whether Cadence and Shining Armour get any screen time at all in future or if they were just added in for that one plot, never to be referenced again.

Josh_Kablack · Post by **Josh_Kablack** » Tue Aug 07, 2012 5:08 am

Season 2 finale: WTFs: Twilight has a never before mentioned brother? The lesson is to be suspicious of others even when your friends say you're overreating? The outta nowhere brother is the one who saves the day rather than any of the Mane 6 or Celestia or the elements of Harmony or the Cutie Mark Crusaders?

That Twilight had a fillysitter who happened to be foreign royalty and therefore an Alicorn did not make the list of things for me to be confused and disappointed about in that episode.

Prak · Post by **Prak** » Tue Aug 07, 2012 5:54 am

See also: Celestia is captured, and either changelings work amazingly fast, or Luna slept through a few days. But mostly, the fact that Luna had no idea anything out of the ordinary happened, when it would make much more sense that she'd find someone with an "ignore tiredness" magic, so that she could go to the big wedding.

Pseudo Stupidity · Post by **Pseudo Stupidity** » Tue Aug 07, 2012 1:35 pm

Josh_Kablack wrote:The lesson is to be suspicious of others even when your friends say you're overreacting?

I think the lesson is that if you see something and absolutely believe it you should stick by what you believe even if people are saying otherwise. Don't just give in just because people say you're being unreasonable is a decent lesson. Granted that's probably digging a bit too deep for a children's cartoon about magical best-friend ponies.

It's kind of like this picture of Captain America.

Also, if bronies are 20% cooler I shall have to go to any brony meeting at my vidya game thing. I just hope it ends in us doing shots off a fuckable Twilight plush.

Edit again: Or the lesson was "don't always discount what your friend has to say, even if it seems kind of crazy."

Voss · Post by **Voss** » Tue Aug 07, 2012 3:05 pm

Josh_Kablack wrote:Season 2 finale: WTFs: Twilight has a never before mentioned brother? The lesson is to be suspicious of others even when your friends say you're overreating? The outta nowhere brother is the one who saves the day rather than any of the Mane 6 or Celestia or the elements of Harmony or the Cutie Mark Crusaders?

That Twilight had a fillysitter who happened to be foreign royalty and therefore an Alicorn did not make the list of things for me to be confused and disappointed about in that episode.

Where is the 'foreign' royalty coming from? Her wacky full name? Different parts of Equestria seem to be Euro-analogues, like Pip from Trottingham, and Fleur, as well as ponies talking in 'Fancy' (ie, French)

No, the wtf moment with Cadence is specifically being an Alicorn (or possibly not, since in her flashback filly-Twilight refers to her as a Unicorn, not sure if she was just ignoring the wings, the writers balled it up, or she is just a freaky mutation) , but mysteriously not being all that impressive (freaky romance-related mind control aside). It contrasts oddly with 'Prince' Blueblood, who may well be descended from the old unicorn nobility established in Hearth's Warming Eve.

I think you misunderstood the lesson, however. Twilight was right, but she handled it badly. She knew Cadence better than her friends (who met her for alll of 5 minutes), but she spent a lot of time ranting about her, then burst into the fucking rehersal acting all crazy (almost ot the point of Lesson Zero crazy). What she should have done is gone to Celestia before that, in private. Mind you, Celestia shouldn't have brushed her off either, but whatever. But the lesson is more some generic 'power of love' thing. Shining doesn't save the day, Cadence does. He is pretty much useless until her freaky love magic saves him (and Twilight saves her, so...). Twilight's suspicion was justified, but so was her friends brushing her off, because she handled it in the worst possible way. If she had come at them with a 'Why Cadence is Evil' checklist it might have been more convincing than gibbering about googly eyes.

As for the saving the day thing, I found it rather refreshing that they didn't just whip out the Elements and have Twilight lead them all in Godmode. Far too easy to over use that. As far as Celestia saving the day, it is actually rather important that she doesn't. Having the God-Empress of Ponydom swoop in and solve everything is pretty much the fastest way to undermine the entire story. Plus it was important demonstration of the Power of Love thing they were climaxing with.

@Prak - They are at least referenced in season 3. There are a couple song clips running about the internet, and in the 'Crystal Ponies' one, Twilight mentions that they are doing whatever it is they are doing to help Cadence. But the Failure Song is better.

Prak · Post by **Prak** » Tue Aug 07, 2012 8:54 pm

Well at least they aren't discarded entirely.

I'm really starting to think that in Equestria "Princess" equal alicorn, (or vice versa). It's possible that all alicorns are female, and males born to a noble line are unicorns or pegasi, but never alicorns. It'd imply a magically backed matriarchal society, which would be interesting. I suppose it's also possible that Prince and Princess are the only noble titles, and thus anyone who is part of a noble line is a Prince or Princess. I kind of wonder in Shining Armour will now be Prince Shining Armour, and would be curious to see what happens if a female pony marries into nobility. It's possible that it would make her an alicorn.

virgil · Post by **virgil** » Tue Aug 07, 2012 9:04 pm

Lauren Faust has actually stated that her original goal was for Celestia to be a queen, but the executives forced her to make her a Princess because little girls (as far as they're concerned) like princesses more than queens; and as of right now, there is actually a Queen of Equestria, she just just hasn't made an appearance.

I can't give solid confirmation, but I'm fairly certain that alicorns are not female-only, we just see a lot of females because it's a girl's show.

Prak · Post by **Prak** » Tue Aug 07, 2012 9:15 pm

Ah, ok. And yeah, I know the heavy use of the term Princess is due to executive meddling and girl animation ghetto

Ted the Flayer · Post by **Ted the Flayer** » Wed Aug 08, 2012 12:36 am

Also, is it just me that found Cadance to a a little... well.. hawt?

Stahlseele · Post by **Stahlseele** » Wed Aug 08, 2012 10:45 am

Your tastes may differ i guess . .

Pseudo Stupidity · Post by **Pseudo Stupidity** » Wed Aug 08, 2012 1:12 pm

Being able to magically force ponies to fall in love is more creepy than hot.

She can force people to be happy with each other, it's basically mindraping ponies into love. That's... morally grey at best.

As for finding her sexually attractive, I dunno man, she's a pony. I don't really find ponies attractive.

EDIT: But I love and tolerate you if you do.

Stahlseele · Post by **Stahlseele** » Wed Aug 08, 2012 4:57 pm

Well, she's in good company with the mind rapery . .
Remember what Twilight did with the Mr.Fancy-Pants puppet?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E20jsywkLaY

Pseudo Stupidity · Post by **Pseudo Stupidity** » Wed Aug 08, 2012 8:07 pm

Mind rape is apparently a major problem in Equestria, I completely forgot about Twilight doing that.

Even the CMC end up mind raping ponies (though it was from a potion), come to think of it. Mind rape: so easy a filly can do it!

Prak · Post by **Prak** » Wed Aug 08, 2012 10:37 pm

Given that it's personality that attracts me to a person, real or fictional, and not necessarily looks (though they help), I can confidently state, no, didn't find Cadence hot, really...

Ted the Flayer · Post by **Ted the Flayer** » Thu Aug 09, 2012 1:34 pm

I think it's the eyes.

Stahlseele · Post by **Stahlseele** » Thu Aug 09, 2012 10:35 pm

So . . Eyes yes?